Most of the white Americans I've ever encountered, really, you know, had a Negro friend or Negro maid or somebody in high school, but they never, rarely, after school was over or whatever, you know, came to my kitchen. You know, we were segregated from the schoolhouse door. Therefore, he doesn't know, he really does not know what it was like for me to leave my house -- leave the school and go back to Harlem. Doesn't know how Negroes live. It comes as a great surprise to the Kennedy brothers and everybody else in the country. I'm certain again, you know, that like -- again like most of white Americans I have encountered, they have no -- they truly have nothing against Negroes, that's really not the question. The question is really a kind of apathy and ignorance which is the price to be paid for segregation. That's what segregation means. That you don't know what's happening on the other side of the world because you don't want to know.